medicare, medicaid, they've all been stumbles. i essentially think this is the beginning of a correct program. it would be nice to get the insurance companies out of the picture, but that didn't happen and it's not going to happen. so we can hope that increased competition, which is afterall the basis of a capitalistic society, will in the end work and drive those costs down. the congressional budget office has basically scored this bill saying it saves money over the long term. so it's a very important first step to getting the health care costs under control in this country and providing access. >> okay. eleanor clift and jim, always good to see you both. >> thank you. >> well, up next, carl quintanilla on google's mie das touch. r choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. [ claira ] after the deliveries, i was okay. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. [ groans ] all these stops to take more pil